Final 12 months, I used to be on a 3rd – and what turned out to be remaining – date with a person I had met on Tinder

Our first two had been wonderful, and I assumed I actually preferred him. However his true colors got here out throughout this assembly, when the topic of previous lovers got here up. 

I used to be sitting on his couch, ready to go out for the night. We had been chatting in regards to the traditional stuff, and acquired on to the topic of courting usually. Then, out of nowhere, he requested what my ‘magic quantity’ was. 

Figuring out that I wasn’t comfy with this subject, I braced myself for a probably troublesome dialog. I firmly consider that how many individuals an individual has slept with is irrelevant – an individual’s previous is strictly that, their previous. Nobody must be judged for it.

I advised him that I didn’t need to disclose that data. Issues then took a good worse flip than I had anticipated. 

‘My mates and I don’t date girls who've slept with over 10 males,’ he mentioned with out flinching. 

Shocked, I instantly requested why, as a 37-year-old man, it will presumably matter if a lady he dated had slept with over 10 males? ‘It makes them a sure sort of woman,’ he mentioned. 

My abdomen immediately sank. The truth that he mentioned this so overtly, as if it was a completely regular viewpoint – and with out even figuring out my quantity – made me really feel uneasy.

He clearly assumed that as a result of I hadn’t slept with him but, I will need to have slept with fewer than 10 males in my lifetime. A very unfair assumption that made me really feel judged and embarrassed. 

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‘My mates and I don’t date girls who've slept with over 10 males,’ he mentioned with out flinching (Image: Robyn Morris)

If I’m trustworthy, I ought to have realised from the get-go that he had outdated views. We hadn’t been intimate but and he saved saying that he ‘revered’ me for this. Whereas I initially took this as an – albeit quaint – praise, it turned out to be a warning signal of issues to return. 

We hadn’t even left the home to exit but, however he wouldn’t let the topic go. He saved reiterating the truth that girls who've slept with over 10 males are ‘overly promiscuous’. 

I requested him what he’d suppose if I mentioned the identical factor to him, and he advised me that it was totally different for males. This remark made me really feel sick to my abdomen. He even admitted that, following the breakdown of an eight-year relationship in his late twenties, he had a ‘few wild years’, by which I’m assuming meant his ‘magic quantity’ was quite a bit greater than 10. 

The hypocrisy surprised me into silence. It’s not typically I’m misplaced for phrases, however this was past ridiculous. I felt offended and thought of leaving. However I continued with the date, regardless of feeling uncomfortable. I wished to offer him an opportunity however I couldn’t get his feedback out of my head.

We managed to maneuver the dialog on and have an pleasing night. Nonetheless, extra pink flags popped up later that night time when he messaged me after I acquired residence saying: ‘I don’t need to know your quantity, however was I on the proper traces with 10?’ 

This actually acquired to me. The topic of how many individuals I've slept with isn’t a subject I care to debate with folks I’m courting, particularly in such an early stage of attending to know one another. 

Why does it matter what occurred earlier than we even met? 

The common variety of lifetime heterosexual companions is 7.7 for girls, 11.7 for males, in accordance with knowledge from the British Nationwide Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Life, which interviewed adults between 2010 and 2012. I think about within the decade since, this quantity has risen. 

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Why does it matter what occurred earlier than we even met? (Image: Robyn Morris)

But in society, girls are judged and typically even labelled as ‘promiscuous’ for his or her courting historical past in a method that males merely aren’t.

It felt apparent to me that he wouldn’t need to proceed courting me if he found I had slept with greater than 10 males. I felt judged and advised him I felt uncomfortable. However he didn’t perceive my concern and as a substitute advised me I’d ‘misunderstood’him and that he wasn’t judging. I’m undecided how I might have misunderstood him – he was very clear about his opinion. 

Having beforehand been the type of one who tends to chop males off on the first signal of hassle, I made a decision to offer him an opportunity, to see how issues went. 

However earlier than our subsequent date, the subject of my upcoming ladies’ vacation to Ibiza got here up. He messaged me saying: ‘Don’t inform me that you just put on thong bikinis? Not a kind of uncovered bum, strolling across the seashore sorts? Please no.’ 

He went on so as to add that he additionally wouldn’t approve of his accomplice sunbathing topless, once more claiming it will make them a ‘sure sort of woman.’ A number of days later, he made a remark about how he doesn’t like girls who swear, as as soon as once more, it apparently provides off some type of impression about who they're.  

Horrified, I spoke to my closest girlfriend and he or she mentioned that, for her, they had been all warning indicators indicating that he could possibly be controlling down the road. Should you can’t be your full self with somebody with out being judged or advised the way to behave or what you may and may’t put on, how are you going to have a profitable relationship?

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Respect for a lady shouldn’t come from her choice to have – or not have – intercourse (Image: Robyn Morris)

That was what made me realise I needed to finish it. I advised him by way of textual content I felt I couldn’t be with somebody who had such strict guidelines and standards in the case of girls. He tried to argue, so I ultimately stopped replying to keep away from going spherical in circles.

Since then, I’ve spoken to varied girls who've skilled comparable judgement from males in the case of their ‘quantity.’ 

One good friend even advised me that somebody she dated didn’t need to see her once more after she advised him the age she misplaced her virginity. Others have confronted comparable judgement to me, being known as ‘straightforward’ or ‘not girlfriend materials’ solely due to their sexual historical past.  

This makes me really feel offended. It shouldn’t matter how many individuals girls have slept with as a result of in the end, our sexual previous and desire will not be what makes us who we're. 

Respect for a lady shouldn’t come from her choice to have – or not have – intercourse. It ought to come from how she is as an individual, her successes, ambitions, and a lot extra.

Fortunately, I didn’t let him put me off courting and I’ve since met somebody who hasn’t introduced up my ‘magic quantity’ and doesn’t care about my previous. If I ever dated somebody who had these sorts of views once more, it will be an enormous pink flag and I wouldn’t proceed seeing them.

The truth that in 2021, males are nonetheless berating girls about their sexual pasts whereas celebrating their very own conquests shocks me. When will these double requirements finish?

Sadly, it doesn’t seem like it is going to be taking place any time quickly.


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